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Topic: 64th notes please
tomford
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64th notes please
on: December 23, 2010, 05:42

Hi, bought the app sort of on a whim. I sort of can't use it in it's current version. When I write music I usually use 128th notes or 256th notes, using 64th notes is really when it barely starts getting interesting in my opinion. I am fond of beatmaker because it has the capacity for 64th notes and sunvox can be configured to the equivalent of 128th notes. If I'm not mistaken this is 16th notes used on the sampler in ricepad, if not it feels like it's quantizing to 16th notes.

So here they are:

1. Please include at least 1/64 notes if not higher (in one form or another for the samplers)

2. Please allow resampling of what you hear, including effects over samples


Resample is not at all what I expected, I was hoping to be able to resample what you hear, or resample effected loops (really the only real reason for resampling IMHO) why have resample if you can just add another sampler to play a pattern unless you have added some effect to the resample? Maybe I'm not truly understanding the function of resample in ricepad. Those 2 features are of the highest priority to me, everything else are of lesser importance.


3. Since you have a really nice effects panel design, it would be nice to use ricepad as an effects processor, effecting the pass through audio. Then the out could either be recorded to a file or sent back through iRig.

4. recordable knob movements, specifically for effects. This could easily become redundant if done wrong, but maybe if there was a set of buttons assigned to presets each either with recordable/ recorded knob movements or effect groupings (a group of effects triggered and held in a specific position).

5. Lastly, up the BPMs to 300+ (I usually start things at around 180bpms if I have 128th notes, 360bpms if I only have 64th notes… Ect ect)


I might be able to make mockups of what I am talking about at some point if any of that is unclear.

This seems like it might be a cool app at some point, looking forward to updates.


Ricecode
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Re: 64th notes please
on: December 23, 2010, 14:19

Quote from tomford on December 23, 2010, 05:42

Hi, bought the app sort of on a whim. I sort of can't use it in it's current version. When I write music I usually use 128th notes or 256th notes, using 64th notes is really when it barely starts getting interesting in my opinion. I am fond of beatmaker because it has the capacity for 64th notes and sunvox can be configured to the equivalent of 128th notes. If I'm not mistaken this is 16th notes used on the sampler in ricepad, if not it feels like it's quantizing to 16th notes.

So here they are:

1. Please include at least 1/64 notes if not higher (in one form or another for the samplers)

2. Please allow resampling of what you hear, including effects over samples


Resample is not at all what I expected, I was hoping to be able to resample what you hear, or resample effected loops (really the only real reason for resampling IMHO) why have resample if you can just add another sampler to play a pattern unless you have added some effect to the resample? Maybe I'm not truly understanding the function of resample in ricepad. Those 2 features are of the highest priority to me, everything else are of lesser importance.


3. Since you have a really nice effects panel design, it would be nice to use ricepad as an effects processor, effecting the pass through audio. Then the out could either be recorded to a file or sent back through iRig.

4. recordable knob movements, specifically for effects. This could easily become redundant if done wrong, but maybe if there was a set of buttons assigned to presets each either with recordable/ recorded knob movements or effect groupings (a group of effects triggered and held in a specific position).

5. Lastly, up the BPMs to 300+ (I usually start things at around 180bpms if I have 128th notes, 360bpms if I only have 64th notes… Ect ect)


I might be able to make mockups of what I am talking about at some point if any of that is unclear.

This seems like it might be a cool app at some point, looking forward to updates.


1. I believe that a quantization that is finer than 1/16 is too much for editing and not for live performances, which is the main character of Ricepad. However in the future I'm thinking about some flaming function.

2. The versatility of the resampling function is probably the most popular feature of Ricepad. Please read the manual and/or do the tutorials.

3. You can process the input with the Microphone module or the Microphonic Sampler, but you can't record a long audio file. You can however record clips and export them with the clipboard.

4. If/When there will be parameter automation it won't be sophisticated as I think you expect. I don't like editing features.

5. I'd like to hear some of your 64ths in 360bpms beats!


Cheers.


tomford
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Re: 64th notes please
on: December 23, 2010, 23:48

Quote from adenardi on December 23, 2010, 14:19


Quote from tomford on December 23, 2010, 05:42

Hi, bought the app sort of on a whim. I sort of can't use it in it's current version. When I write music I usually use 128th notes or 256th notes, using 64th notes is really when it barely starts getting interesting in my opinion. I am fond of beatmaker because it has the capacity for 64th notes and sunvox can be configured to the equivalent of 128th notes. If I'm not mistaken this is 16th notes used on the sampler in ricepad, if not it feels like it's quantizing to 16th notes.

So here they are:

1. Please include at least 1/64 notes if not higher (in one form or another for the samplers)

2. Please allow resampling of what you hear, including effects over samples


Resample is not at all what I expected, I was hoping to be able to resample what you hear, or resample effected loops (really the only real reason for resampling IMHO) why have resample if you can just add another sampler to play a pattern unless you have added some effect to the resample? Maybe I'm not truly understanding the function of resample in ricepad. Those 2 features are of the highest priority to me, everything else are of lesser importance.


3. Since you have a really nice effects panel design, it would be nice to use ricepad as an effects processor, effecting the pass through audio. Then the out could either be recorded to a file or sent back through iRig.

4. recordable knob movements, specifically for effects. This could easily become redundant if done wrong, but maybe if there was a set of buttons assigned to presets each either with recordable/ recorded knob movements or effect groupings (a group of effects triggered and held in a specific position).

5. Lastly, up the BPMs to 300+ (I usually start things at around 180bpms if I have 128th notes, 360bpms if I only have 64th notes… Ect ect)


I might be able to make mockups of what I am talking about at some point if any of that is unclear.

This seems like it might be a cool app at some point, looking forward to updates.


1. I believe that a quantization that is finer than 1/16 is too much for editing and not for live performances, which is the main character of Ricepad. However for the future I'm thinking about some flaming function.

2. The versatility of the resampling function is probably the most popular feature of Ricepad. Please read the manual and/or do the tutorials.

3. You can process the input with the Microphone module or the Microphonic Sampler, but you can't record a long audio file. You can however record clips and export them with the clipboard.

4. If/When there will be parameter automation it won't be sophisticated as I think you expect. I don't like editing features.

5. I'd like to hear some of your 64ths in 360bpms beats!


Cheers.


1 a flam function would be great but I still feel like I cannot record patterns with the control and / or articulation that I would like

2. I went through all the tutorials but I did not see a manual


tomford
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Re: 64th notes please
on: December 24, 2010, 00:04

Yeah I don't see any way to resample with an effect applied to the new sample. I found the manual that shows up when you immediately open the app. There are a few things I am unclear about, but resampling is not really covered other than in the tutorials.


Ricecode
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Re: 64th notes please
on: December 24, 2010, 00:39

– The first thing to learn about Ricepad is that the audio signal goes from left to right. To resample the audio coming out from e.g. a phaser effect (this is maybe filtering an audio player), you have to put the Sampler module on the right of the Phaser.

– In the app you can open the manual either from the home screen or from the menu that appears when you press and hold the clock button.

– On the top of this page (just above the forums) you have a link to a copy of that manual.


franksterling
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Re: 64th notes please
on: January 26, 2011, 12:50

hi!

not sure if i am right but isnt 128th notes on 360 the same as 64th notes on 180 or 32th notes on 90?

in my eyes this resolution not precise enough for groove quantise (which you wont use in a live orientated app anyway) and and too fine for delibretly placing notes.

i just made electronic music but hardly went over 32th notes and in most of the cases stayed at 16th.

i think for rolls and this kind of stuff a higher resolution would make sense but then thinking of editing 64 th or even 128th notes in a sequencer window on the phone doesnt make me happy.


Ricecode
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Re: 64th notes please
on: January 26, 2011, 13:45

128th notes on 180 bpms is like 64th on 360 bpms.

While I think that's too much, maybe I will add a 32ths resolution in the future, but it's not a priority.


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